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Post by Cracker » 23 October 2020, 20:45

Peace and Basket.

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Post by toniooooo » 23 October 2020, 22:59

Si Kita vend le FC Nantes a un repreneur fiable, je m'épile les dessous de bras et le torse.

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Post by toniooooo » 23 October 2020, 23:00

Si Kita vend le FC Nantes a un repreneur fiable, je m'épile les dessous de bras et le torse.

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Post by marmite » 24 October 2020, 09:46

Vous en dites quoi ?

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Post by nunu » 24 October 2020, 10:05

Ca fait on veut vraiment notre soirée de Noel
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Post by UJ3212 » 24 October 2020, 10:10

En cas de début de saison juste avant Noël quel serait le terme? Juillet ou juin ?
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Post by nunu » 24 October 2020, 10:13

Les JO sont prévus le 23 juillet pour l'instant. Donc plus juin j'ai l'impression.
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Post by UJ3212 » 24 October 2020, 10:39

Ah ok.

Le calendrier va effectivement être dantesque

Le load management va être, plus que jamais, d’actualité.
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Post by nunu » 24 October 2020, 10:43

Apres j'en sais rien mais finir en juillet pour aller au JO a la fin du mois ca me semble un poil juste. Apres ca dépend qui va aux JO aussi. Team Usa peut décider de prendre que des joueurs éliminé des PO ou qui se sont fait sortir genre en demi de conférence (ca laisse une chance de voir des mecs des Clippers avec Team USA)
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Post by illiac » 24 October 2020, 12:07

UJ3212 wrote:
24 October 2020, 10:39
Ah ok.

Le calendrier va effectivement être dantesque

Le load management va être, plus que jamais, d’actualité.
Sachant qu'il retire 10 journée, à peine plus que d'habitude en fait.

Par contre, faut qu'ils se mettent d'accord avant la fin du mois, ça me semble compliqué quand même.
Surtout que l’épidémie est toujours hors de contrôle et qu'il y a un gros point d'interrogation autour de l’élection américaine.

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Post by marmite » 25 October 2020, 08:03

NBA could withhold 40% of player salaries in escrow next season
NBA could withhold 40% of player salaries in escrow next season
Players and owners split all basketball related income 51-49.

NBA agents are bracing for the possibility that the league will withhold up to 40 percent of player salaries during the 20-21 season in escrow, as reported by ESPN’s Bobby Marks.

This amount of money, which would roughly be on the basis of $1.6B, would offset anticipates losses incurred by the league due to a drop in revenue in having either a limited number of fans attend games in person or no fans together.
SOURCE: BOBBY MARKS.

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Post by MintBerryCrunch » 25 October 2020, 08:08

Pour le coup, je me dis que c'est sûrement la solution la plus logique.

Les joueurs ont un rôle «d'actionnaires» de la NBA en touchant grosso modo 50% du benef, donc si les revenus coulent ca me parait sensé que les salaires aussi. Y a forcément des gros perdants niveau timing mais c'est comme partout dans la vie finalement. A voir si les joueurs et la ligue créé une sorte de cagnottes pour les plus petits salaires et autres contrait oui !
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Post by nunu » 25 October 2020, 08:13

Donc ils pourraient retenir 40 % des salaires si j'ai bien compris.
Mais le Cap va baisser ou pas ?
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Post by Garcy22 » 25 October 2020, 08:15

40%, ce n'est pas neutre tout de meme.

Pour les joueurs de bout de banc, cela peut les mettre dans le rouge financierement
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Post by jujug » 25 October 2020, 09:34

L'escrow c'est une retenue à la base. Mais elle peut être en partie (ou en totalité) reversée à la fin de la saison si les revenus des joueurs sont inférieurs à la moyenne contractuelle du CBA. D'habitude ils prennent 10%, là ce serait 40 c'est juste un changement de dimension, pas une nouvelle pratique. C'est sans doute préférable à l'inverse qui consisterait à réclamer en fin de saison un trop perçu.
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Post by nunu » 25 October 2020, 10:07

Des escrow yen a plein en NBA :lol:
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Post by marmite » 26 October 2020, 15:38

One thing that is unanimous is that teams are lobbying for the tax level to come in at $139M and apron at $145M.

If the tax stays flat at $132.7M, FA and the trade market essentially will become frozen.

A flat tax would only benefit the teams with cap space.

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Post by marmite » 29 October 2020, 18:15

Hop, des infos d'un article de Shams :
"Ahead of Friday’s deadline between the NBA and National Basketball Players Association for either side to serve notice to terminate the collective bargaining agreement, NBPA executive director Michele Roberts told The Athletic that the union and players are continuing to review the league’s proposal to begin the 2020-21 season on Dec. 22 and that she does not expect any decision by the end of the week. “The union and the players are analyzing all of the information and will not be rushed,” Roberts told The Athletic. “We have requested and are receiving data from the parties involved and will work on a counterproposal as expeditiously as possible. I have absolutely no reason to believe that we will have a decision by Friday. I cannot and will not view Friday as a drop dead date.”

“Given all that has to be resolved between now and a Dec. 22 date, factoring that there will be financial risks by a later start date, it defies common sense that it can all be done in time,” Roberts told The Athletic. “Our players deserve the right to have some runway so that they can plan for a start that soon. The overwhelming response from the players that I have received to this proposal has been negative.”

"For the 2020-21 season, the NBA is expecting flexibility in its scheduling and plans to release the schedule in two halves, sources say. The league is aiming for three-to-four preseason games to allow teams to reset their arenas for regular-season play, according to sources. If a Dec. 22 start is agreed upon, training camp would begin Dec. 1 and a set number of days would be used to begin coronavirus testing before team activities."

"The sides are close on the salary cap and tax figures, Roberts told The Athletic. Multiple sources say the cap and tax are expected to be $109 million and $132 million, respectively. "

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Post by Garcy22 » 31 October 2020, 06:32

Le bras de fer entre proprios et joueurs va probablement se resumer a 2 scenario:
- debut le 22 decembre pour une saison a 72 matchs
- debut le 18 janvier (MLK Day) pour une saison a 50 matchs

Ainsi, si les joueus veulent decaler le debut de la saison a janvier, cela va leur couter une partie de leur salaire (ils sont payés au pro rata du nombre de matchs)
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Post by FeLeR » 31 October 2020, 07:11

quelles sont les positions de chacun (nba, joueurs et proprio) ?
(a) Le GOAT des GOAT c'est Boban ! De San Antonio à Houston, en passant par Detroit, Los Angeles ... :pleur4: Philly .. :pleur4: et Dallas . :pleur4:

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Post by marmite » 31 October 2020, 07:20

C'est pas 72 matchs pour l'option 1 ? Celle défendue par la NBA. L'option 2 est celle des joueurs.

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Post by marmite » 31 October 2020, 07:25

Voilà un topo de la situation par Woj :
After pushing back a deadline until next Friday that would allow for the NBA to serve notice on termination of the collective bargaining agreement in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic, the league and the National Basketball Players Association are running short on time to agree on starting the NBA's season before Christmas.

And without assurances that the pandemic will allow for fans in arenas this season -- and projections that their absence could cost the league more than $4 billion in lost revenue -- the NBA fears delaying the start of the 2020-21 season until January could cost the league an additional $500 million to $1 billion in revenue losses next season and beyond, sources said.

The consequences for the league's players would be a steep drop in salaries due to the collective bargaining agreement's 50-50 revenue split between the league and players.

The NBA and NBPA are still at odds over a start date to the season, with the union resisting thus far a league plan to open a shortened 72-game regular season on Dec. 22 and complete the NBA Finals before the Summer Olympics in July, sources said.

The union has countered with a mid-January start, but wants to continue discussing the issue with its players, sources said. There is a level of impatience growing within the NBA, which wants to get a deal executed and get plans for a new season moving quickly, sources said.

NBPA executive director Michele Roberts has publicly and privately registered doubt about the desire of a significant portion of players for such a quick turnaround, with the Orlando bubble restart ending less than seven weeks before the presumed opening of training camps around Dec. 1.

Significant gaps remain between the NBA and NBPA on how the league will account for reductions in players' salaries in light of the significant financial losses for 2019-20 and steeper projections of losses next year, sources said. The NBA and NBPA split the basketball related income (BRI), and the league recently told teams that 40% of that revenue could be lost without gate receipts this season, sources said. The NBA's revenue was down 10% to $8.3 billion for the 2019-20 season, according to data provided to teams from the league.

Most NBA cities are still unable to have public gatherings of more than 500 people. The NBA plans to start the season without fans in arenas -- with little confidence that they'll be able to return any time early in the season as a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic spreads across the country.

A mid-January start around Martin Luther King Day would take the league's season past the July Summer Olympics and into the summer months, when the league fears television ratings would plummet. The NBA is estimating significant financial turmoil if the league has to compete with the Summer Olympics for television ratings in July and then be forced to adjust the NBA calendar for the 2021-22 season, sources said.

Both the NBA and NBPA have the option of tearing up the collective bargaining agreement, which would be a doomsday scenario for the possibility of the league returning to play in the 2020-21 season.

The pandemic triggered the force majeure clause in the CBA, and both the league and union have the ability to terminate the agreement and negotiate a new one. Nevertheless, it makes far more sense for the owners to consider such a dramatic option because the CBA's structure wasn't meant to sustain these kinds of financial losses. While the NBA has reserved the right to terminate the deal -- which would almost assure a lengthy stoppage in play for the league -- that threat has yet to become a serious factor in these months-long negotiations. If there's no deal by next Friday's new deadline on the termination of the CBA, perhaps that could change.

The NBA and NBPA have extended that opt-out window four times this year, including again Friday, as a good-faith gesture toward reaching structural changes to the CBA. For now, the union and league will continue talks through the weekend and into next week, sources said. For the season to start on Dec. 22, however, there's much work to be done.

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Post by Garcy22 » 31 October 2020, 08:02

marmite wrote:
31 October 2020, 07:20
C'est pas 72 matchs pour l'option 1 ? Celle défendue par la NBA. L'option 2 est celle des joueurs.
En effet, c'est bien 72 matchs, j'ai corrigé
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Post by FeLeR » 31 October 2020, 10:23

N'empeche au vue de la situation probable avec un scénario "sans publique" + saison raccourcie, il y a un risque que les revenues de la NBA soit plus faible que celui de cette saison, non ? Est-ce que le cap imaginé à 109 Millions intègre ce fait là ou pas ???
(a) Le GOAT des GOAT c'est Boban ! De San Antonio à Houston, en passant par Detroit, Los Angeles ... :pleur4: Philly .. :pleur4: et Dallas . :pleur4:

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Post by Easy » 31 October 2020, 22:29

De plus en plus de reconfinement un peu partout.
Vu que les usa ont toujours étés quelques temps après nous européens, j'ai très peur pour la saison 2021
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