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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by MAVS_Raptors » 05 May 2013, 22:48

C'est comme les Lakers en fait ..soit faire une croix sur le passé et ses anciennes gloires pour préparer sans une longue transition l'avenir;..
coupé PP ou Kg avec des gros contrats / discussions comme quoi coupé un Bryant bléssé leur fait économiser qque millions;..

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Post by The Answer » 05 May 2013, 22:48

Wait and see
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by anonymento » 05 May 2013, 23:14

Article très intéressant de celticslife.com, faisant un point sur les différentes solutions possibles.
En gros, la seule solution pour pouvoir pécher un gros poisson : amnistier PP ( :nono: ) et KG qui se retire
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Breaking down the Celtics salary cap situation, and why an Al Jefferson return is possible

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The NBA salary cap is weird. There's a salary cap, a luxury tax, different rules for spending money on your own players compared to other team's players, mid-level exceptions for team over the cap, mini-mid levels for teams over the tax, Larry Bird rights, ect. If you don't understand it all—I don't blame you.

However, despite all of intricacies of the cap, the Celtics situation appears to be pretty straightforward on the surface. According to HoopsHype, the Celtics have $73.1 million in salaries committed for the 2013-14 season. Take a look.

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The NBA salary cap is projected to be right around $60 million next year, meaning that the Celtics are just about $13 million over heading into the off-season (you can go over the cap to re-sign your own players, which the Celtics did last off-season with Garnett, Bass and Green). However this is assuming the status quo, meaning; A. Paul Pierce's $15.3 million dollar option is picked up, and, B. Kevin Garnett decides to return. This is the first situation we will look at.

A. The Status Quo (Pierce is retained, KG returns)

If this happens, the Celtics are basically stuck with the roster they have. The one move the team could make would be the mid-level exception, but they may not even be eligible to use the whole MLE.

The way the MLE works is that teams over the cap but under the luxury tax can offer a 4 year, $21.5 million dollar deal to players. However if you are over the tax you can only offer the 'mini mid level' which is 3 years, $9 million (otherwise known as the Ray Allen deal). As of right now it appears that the Celts will be over the tax, which this year was at $70.37 million and is expected to raise "only slightly". Therefore if Pierce and KG both come back, get used to the roster we saw this season. While many Celtics fans may be happy to see the legends return, it would delay a potential rebuild by another season.

B. Pierce's option is declined, Garnett returns

If Danny does decide to part ways with Pierce, he has three options; 1. Trade him (possible but unlikely), 2. Amnesty him (we'll get to this), or, 3. Decline his option. We'll start with the latter.

If Pierce's option is declined the Celtics need to pay him a $5 million buyout which does count against the cap. This lowers their cap number from $73.1 million down to $62.8 million. With the cap right around $60 million, simply declining Pierce's option doesn't accomplish much on it's own. The one thing it would accomplish would be allowing the Celtics to use the full MLE to entice a better caliber player to come to Boston. However, is the difference between the Mid-Level and the mini-mid-level really worth losing Pierce? I say no.

I didn't include this as an option, as I think it's very unrealistic, but you could also lump "Pierce's option is picked up, Garnett retires" into this section. In both scenarios the Celtics would have one of their two
It's going to tear C's fans apart when these two leave
Hall of Famers, and would have cleared enough money to stay clear of the tax, but not enough to make a major move (With Pierce here and Garnett's $11.5 million salary off the books the C's would have $61.6 million committed next year).

C. Pierce is amnestied, Garnett returns

Now is where things get emotional. Could Danny Ainge really pull the trigger and amnesty Pierce this summer? If the Celts really want to rebuild, amnestying Pierce is the option that makes the most sense as it gives them the maximum amount of salary relief. By taking the entire cap hit off the books, the C's would be down to $57.8 million committed for next year. Obviously $2 million isn't enough cap space to make any kind of major move, but the shakeup would also send a strong message to Kevin Garnett who said recently that Pierce would have a big impact on his decision to return. If #34 was no longer in the picture you have to imagine that Garnett would think long and hard about returning to the team. Which leads us to our final realistic possibility.

D. Pierce is amnestied, Garnett retires

So far none of the options have created any kind of real cap space for Boston next season, as the team just has too much money on the books for one departure to make a difference. However if Pierce is amnestied, and KG decides to hang them up, well that's an entirely different situation.

Starting with the current money on the books ($73.1 million) and subtracting $15.3 for Pierce and $11.5 for Garnett, the Celtics would suddenly be down to just $46.3 in commitments for next season. While this would not leave quite enough room for a max-level player, it would allow the C's to bring in an elite talent to join the suddenly young core of Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, Jeff Green and Jared Sullinger.

I wrote an article about a month ago describing what I would do if the C's are put in this exact situation, and basically I could think of one name that fits into the 'elite but non-max level' player category that would be interested in Boston: Al Jefferson.

Big Al is 28 years old and coming off a season in which he averaged 17.8 points and 9.2 rebounds per game for the Utah Jazz, his sixth consecutive season averaging 17 and 9.

Jefferson isn't perfect—he's below average defensively and he did suffer a serious knee injury four years ago—but considering Boston's lack of appeal to free agents, and Jefferson's reported interest in a return to the city, he's by far the most logical choice.

With Jefferson (or a similar level player) in the mix, Boston would again be pushed up to the salary cap, but could still offer the full Mid-level, something that could bring a pretty good player into Boston.

I took a look at the list of free agents and concluded that Al-Farouq Aminu would be the best option. There are a ton of options for players that will earn about $5 million next year but I love Aminu's rebounding (he grabbed 26.2% of all available defensive rebounds while on the floor this year, best among small forwards), his defensive ability and how it would give the team a completely different player than Green to back him up.

Again there are a million different directions the Celts could go this summer. But if the team is serious about turning towards the future, they could get a huge head start by saying goodbye to two of the greatest players in franchise history.

It certainly won't be easy, but change rarely is.
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J'ai du mal à me dire que la saison est finie /:)
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by La Pelota17 » 05 May 2013, 23:21

NON JOSH SMITH AUX PISTONS !!!!!
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by MAVS_Raptors » 05 May 2013, 23:28

pour les pistons j'aimerai trop mais la ville attire pas merde quoi

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Post by Gurvan8 » 05 May 2013, 23:32

Jordan Crawford ne joue presque pas depuis qu'il est un celtic

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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by La Pelota17 » 05 May 2013, 23:47

MAVS_Raptors wrote:pour les pistons j'aimerai trop mais la ville attire pas merde quoi

Certes mais la franchise a une Histoire et un sacré potentiel :)
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Krysi » 06 May 2013, 00:41

Varnado 39.000$ pour 10 jours sur le banc des C's, hôtel de luxe et tout ce qui s'en suit compris. Cool les 10 jours de vacs ^^
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Gurvan8 » 06 May 2013, 00:46

Je connaissait même pas ce joueur

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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Krysi » 06 May 2013, 00:49

c'est normal il a était drafté par le Heat, vous connaissez que 3 joueurs la-bas ^^

haha petite blague va

en plus après vérifs, ils l'ont résignés pour 2ans, il est au bout du banc au Heat
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Gurvan8 » 06 May 2013, 00:56

Il a une moy de 4,5 min et 0,6 pts en 13 matchs

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Post by AirBouboulle » 06 May 2013, 17:22

Bon c'est fini. Je n'ai pas trop vibré cette saison ... sauf avec la blessure de rajon où j'ai cru à une blague au début.
Je ne sais pas s'il y a grand chose à espérer de l' intersaison, plutôt à craindre.
Je suis persuadé qu'avec un Rondo en rythme nos vieux n'auraient pas paru si vieux!
A l'année prochaine.

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Post by D.Rose1 » 06 May 2013, 17:25

plutôt, au topic prochain boston celtics 2013/2014
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Yoco » 06 May 2013, 17:50

Vous allez en faire quoi d'ailleurs des anciens topics la saison prochaine ?

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Post by D.Rose1 » 06 May 2013, 18:18

les recyclés,

comme ça the answer va avoir ses posts réduit de 6600 à 600
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by vincynity » 06 May 2013, 21:21

AirBouboulle wrote:Bon c'est fini. Je n'ai pas trop vibré cette saison ... sauf avec la blessure de rajon où j'ai cru à une blague au début.
Je ne sais pas s'il y a grand chose à espérer de l' intersaison, plutôt à craindre.
Je suis persuadé qu'avec un Rondo en rythme nos vieux n'auraient pas paru si vieux!
A l'année prochaine.
Je suis un peu dans ton cas. J'ai bien vibrer avec le retour de Bradley et la team qui se formait à l'époque. Mais les blessures de Rondo et Jared m'ont vraiment refroidis.
Je rejoins complètement l'avis de celticslife.com, les signatures d'Al jeff et de Aminou seraient intéressantes pour moi

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Post by Flopatey » 06 May 2013, 22:00

vincynity wrote:les signatures d'Al jeff et de Aminou seraient intéressantes pour moi
Al Jefferson serait super intéressant pour remplacer KG, mais Aminu, je vois pas trop en quoi il serait utile (a moins dans le futur de mettre Green en 4, Jefferson en 5 et Aminu en 3...)

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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Baz » 07 May 2013, 02:21

D.Rose1 wrote:les recyclés,
comme ça the answer va avoir ses posts réduit de 6600 à 600
En même temps c'est pas ce topic en particulier qui fait gonfler ses stats :happy1:

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Post by Baz » 07 May 2013, 02:23

Flopatey wrote:
vincynity wrote:les signatures d'Al jeff et de Aminou seraient intéressantes pour moi
Al Jefferson serait super intéressant pour remplacer KG, mais Aminu, je vois pas trop en quoi il serait utile (a moins dans le futur de mettre Green en 4, Jefferson en 5 et Aminu en 3...)
Le retour de Big Al serait l'un des meilleures raisons, et de loin, de se séparer (à l'amiable, certainement) de KG.
Ainge va de toute façon discuter très sérieusement avec ses deux vétérans et je suis convaincu que quelle que soit la décision finale, elle sera commune, et avantageuse pour chaque partie.

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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Larry » 07 May 2013, 09:28

Hé vous touchez pas à Aminu. Bon, sauf si on chope un 3 à la draft. Mais même, il a pas mal progressé au fur et à mesure cette saison, notamment en étant davantage agressif. Et ça ferait doublon 3-4 avec Green.
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Post by Flopatey » 07 May 2013, 13:34

Sa pourrait être pas trop mal, mais je trouve Aminu un peu trop limité en attaque (malgré une bonne défense...)

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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Larry » 07 May 2013, 13:47

Ah ben il est uniquement capable d'aller au panier. Il arrive à se créer un shoot près du panier grâce à son physique et ses longs bras, il va plus souvent au lay up ou au dunk mais niveau shoot il a encore beaucoup de progrès à faire.
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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by Flopatey » 07 May 2013, 13:49

C'est ce que je me disais... une sorte de Green mais sans le shoot quoi :)


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Re: Boston Celtics 2012/2013 _ (Beantown Supacrew)

Post by The Answer » 07 May 2013, 20:34

D.Rose1 wrote:les recyclés,

comme ça the answer va avoir ses posts réduit de 6600 à 600
ahah si on enlève tes posts sur le topic des bulls tu tombes à 0 :P
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